Mental health – other
My name is Kiki.
I have been eating a carnivore diet of 90% beef since March 2018.
I eat 2 meals a day of 1 lb. of beef each meal.
I usually eat my meals at 11am and 6pm.
I eat when hungry. I always eat to satiety. I do not limit meal size or calories.
I supplement with salt.
I do not test ketones, use a food app, or weigh myself.
I was a 35-year vegetarian and during that time often vegan.
I was very attached to my vegetarian way of life and the belief system that I was eating the ideal health diet while contributing to a better planet and global future having been inspired by many popular vegetarian and vegan books of that time.
I have been involved in Yoga since I was 19 years old, for nearly 40 years now. This dedicated practice as well as decades of Yoga teaching – with more than a dozen study trips to vegetarian South India over a 20-year period – kept me tied to vegetarianism as part of a spiritual belief system and the supposed foundation for luminous health. Simultaneously I embraced a strongly pushed vegetarian propaganda that meat eating and animal farming were causes of global disease and global destruction. These are ideas that most vegetarians accept without question and sacrificing all logic.
I have always been highly physically active – from a competitive runner in high school, professional dancer and actress and an intensely dedicated yoga practitioner – waking at 3am and doing 2-3 hours of intense and advanced yoga asanas for decades while running a yoga school, directing yoga programs and teaching world wide and with a roster of celebrity clients as well as creating yoga programming for individuals and communities with MS, Spinal Cord Injury, disabilities, and vets with PTSD.
From the age of my late 30’s, I began to develop more and more digestive problems (swinging from constipation to loose stools) and kept trying to address this through shifting how I ate a vegetarian diet – from cooked, to raw, to Ayurvedic to macrobiotic to vegan. As well as adding herbs, superfoods, supplements etc. I also developed increasing chemical sensitivities to paint, chemicals, and cologne leading to rashes, flushed skin, and stomach upset.
From being uniquely strong and high energy, I began to develop more and more body pain and stiffness. When I would travel to India – for the first ten years, I would always become more strong and flexible and focussed. But this eventually changed. Rather I would almost instantly have more pain and terrible inflammation. I thought it was due to the intensify of yoga practices, along with so called “over use syndrome” – but now in retrospect I see it was legumes, cereal grains, and toxic plant compounds. I cannot tolerate these at all today.
My health continued to plummet with B12 anaemia that included visual and auditory hallucinations, fainting, intense brain fog, and extreme exhaustion I was also extremely deficient in most B vitamins and vitamin D (and yes, I supplemented with B12 for decades)
For nearly 10 years leading up to my carnivore diet change, I needed to soak in a hot bath everyday to begin to move. I got weekly massages as well as weekly acupuncture and was usually getting an additional kind of therapeutic healing like fascial release sessions, chiropractics, Somatics, barefoot movement and the list goes on. All this to manage 24-hour pain and to just get through my week.
A looming crisis of faith along with my determination to beat these health concerns and a belief that we can heal ourselves (and that I could reverse my situation and thrive) with food choices led me to deeply research Weston A. Price, bone broth, Ketogenics, paleo, zero carb and I found my way to the Low Carb Down Under, Ancestral Health and other presentations where I learned from Dr. Shawn Baker, Dr. Georgia Ede, Sally K. Norton, and so many others whose research I embraced to completely heal. Several Facebook groups like Principia Carnivora, Women’s Carnivore Tribe and Vegan and Vegetarian Recovery offered a great deal of community support. I also listened to every Human Outliers Podcast for a year.
I am so grateful to this Carnivore community and to all those that are participating in research and spreading the word on Carnivore, ultra low carb, zero carb and plant-free lifestyles.
Today I have more vitality than I could have imagined. I feel that I have turned back the clock 20 years (years that were lost to me due to pain and exhaustion). Just a few months ago I registered a Guinness Book of World Records for the Longest Held Downward Dog Pose at 1 hour and 20 seconds. I have taken up kettle bells as well as other athletic and optimal development practices.
My hair and nails are thick and growing. My skin is smooth and my body is lean and toned. I am strong and energetic. I recently moved onto my sailboat and am living a sailing life (this would have been physically impossible 2 years ago).
All the health concerns listed below have disappeared except for some remaining tinnitus, occasional insomnia as well as sensitivity with minor rashes and some low back pain when I eat off plan (which includes a few animal foods I cannot tolerate like pork, dairy and eggs).
20 years of intensifying body aches
Very cold hands and feet all year around
Cold all the time.
Injuries not healing
Weakness, extreme stiffness
Difficulty in walking – hip inflammation – sciatica like pain
Swollen and seeping ears
B12 anaemia (hallucinations, fearfulness, fainting)
Anxiety (I did not know I had this until it was gone) I had accepted this mind state as normal.
Sadness / very emotional
Low thyroid (I took a medication which I no longer need)
Slow growing hair
Some hair receding
Racing thoughts and sleeplessness
Digestive concerns – constipation to loose stools
Some weight gain that I could not control with accompanied inflammation and sudden cellulite and skin dimpling (2 years prior and leading up to Carnivore change)
Non-motivated to exercise
Constant need to nap
Wanting to sleep all the time
An all encompassing fear of losing my community and being judged.
More about me at KikiFlynn.com, Kiki Says on YouTube and Kiki_Says on Instagram
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Growing up I had gut issues the majority of my childhood. I would regularly get bloated and experience stomach cramps and diarrhea after meals. All the while others eating the same foods would have much less of a reaction. I saw several specialists, experienced several uncomfortable exams and tests and we never found a “cause” that was treatable in these doctors’ eyes.
By my teenage years I began suffering from terrible acne. I had such oily skin and clogged pores that in middle school it created real shame. After trying many treatments (proactive, retinol cream, differin gel) and seeing a dermatologist for years I started taking the prescription drug Accutane.
For 6 months while on this medication I had several unpleasant side effects. I had regular nose bleeds, dry throat and felt myself being dried from the inside out. It completely wrecked my sense of smell and taste. Years later I ended up having to undergo sinus surgery to clear sinus scarring, and I can only smell and taste 20-30% of what I could before going on this medication.
As my gut issues persisted, I started manifesting an anxiety disorder into sophomore year of college. While studying pre-med, I experienced my first anxiety attack in a professor’s office. I started heating up, sweating profusely, as my heart pounded rapidly. It totally freaked me out. It was not a pleasant experience and started me down the path to avoid any and all situations that could trigger my anxious symptoms of overheating.
The fear of becoming anxious trapped me from facing things I feared, being challenged. I was terrified to get “caught” in a situation where I would experience them and lose control of my feelings and body’s reaction.
Despite this I still managed to successfully graduate college, join Microsoft and then excel at Zillow for nearly a decade as I mastered a career in sales.
Fast forward going into 2014-2015. I left the corporate world to pursue my entrepreneurial dream. To build a business and generate income through my digital agency, Crushvertise. I was experiencing more responsibility and stress than I had ever learned to manage.
I began exploring diet and lifestyle changes to help build my resiliency and ability to handle more. I studied Bulletproof concepts, Tim Ferris and I was starting to practice intermittent fasting, paleo diets and incorporate more keto dieting. I began adding bulletproof coffee (butter, MCT oil) regularly and later started adding afternoon superfood smoothies. Those often consisted of kale, spinach, almond butter, blueberries, flax seeds, chia seeds, honey, cacao nibs and cinnamon.
I thought if I could fuel my body with these “powerful” “healthful” foods I would thrive and be better equipped to handle my anxiety and stress. I figured the healthy antioxidant superfoods combined with a “balanced” “healthy” diet would give me a level of resilience I truly desired.
Unfortunately my anxiety and mood continued to deteriorate. I began waking up anxious, and those feelings would climb. By 10am most mornings I was a wreck and needed to take a break simply to allow anxious feelings to calm. This continued for months until I had another panic attack in my office that ultimately left me traumatized and depressed.
All the while I just so happened to be attending a gym at the same location and time that Dr. Paul Saladino (@CarnivoreMD) went to as well. As we bumped into each other and I was able to foster a friendship we quickly became good buds. He was studying psychiatry and I was desperate to get to the source of what was going on with me.
We were both active and passionate about wellness and optimization. We didn’t have any knowledge about the Carnivore Diet at that time but that changed very quickly.
We did extensive blood panels and GI maps to look for anything and everything that might be causing my mental and gut health issues. Despite our invasive search, nothing obvious stood out. There were no pathogens or issues that came up and we didn’t see any clear reasons for why I was in the condition I was.
I chalked it up to needing to work on my thought pattern and began deeply working on studying and counseling with therapists and specialists to learn more about anxiety and mental health.
While I was making some progress in this area Paul saw Dr. Shawn Baker’s interview about the Carnivore Diet on The Joe Rogan experience and found it quite intriguing. Dr. Saladino was treating patients dealing with mental health and he kept seeing them relapse and/or simply not get well with current treatment protocols.
Paul started Carnivore and he almost immediately started encouraging me to try it when I’d see him. A few weeks after, I followed and went full on Carnivore. Almost immediately I noticed an improvement in my mood. Gut issues continued, but skin and mood started to swing up quickly and drastically.
Paul and I would share meals and experiment with different animal foods, sourcing and prep. It took us a while but we started learning more about raw fats, organ meats and sourcing from regenerative farms.
Six months after starting the diet and I was able to see my gut issues completely remiss and with that almost no anxiety anymore. I remember at one point thinking to myself I had completely forgotten what it was like to eat something and experience gut dis-ease.
Fast forward another nearly year, I’ve gone from fabio, pale frail Kurt struggling emotionally to lumberjack, vital, fit bearded me. The transformation has been incredible.
My emotional state and gut health has completely transformed and this diet has had a tremendous impact in this part of my life change. Since beginning Carnivore I’ve done several rounds of labs, testing hormones, inflammation, micronutrients and toxins. I’ve deeply documented my journey on my Youtube, Instagram and now in my book, The Carnivore Diet.
If you’ve dealt with chronic anxiety or gut issues, I highly encourage you to learn more from my content. This doesn’t have to be a life sentence, you can heal and recover. I know what it’s like to feel “stuck” and not make progress in these areas, but it is possible to recover. I’ve worked hard to get to the root cause and now feel as though I have it handled. The Carnivore Diet done well can be a powerful tool to assist you on the road to recovery.
All the best,
AKA Karnivore Kurt
Listen to Kurt’s interview on the MeatRx.com podcast below:
Krissy’s Background: I always had an interest in health from the time I was young when I worked as a lifeguard, swam, and was very active. I originally wanted to become a doctor to help others with their health so my first degree was in Biology.
I discovered the importance of nutrition for health in my last year of my biology degree and took a nutrition course. I fell in love with nutrition science and physiology and decided to go back to school to study nutrition. I got my Bachelors of Science in Applied Human Nutrition and became registered as a Dietitian in 2009. I was also a certified personal trainer and started my own private practice/private training studio after this where I worked with clients looking for fat loss and building muscle, as well as fitness athletes.
Why Vegan: I was always considered healthy, fit, and active. I followed the recommended “balanced diet” with lots of variety and the common nutritious foods but had to make modifications due to having IBS such as cutting out dairy and gluten. I was very conscious of making healthy choices based on the nutrition guidelines I learned in school.
My husband Dwayne and I love learning about health so one day he started watching the documentary “Forks Over Knives” and decided he wanted to give a plant-based diet a try. I was not convinced at first because a plant-based diet was not a common practice when I studied nutrition and I wanted to be objective. Then we watched “Vegucated” and “Earthlings” and like many others I was terrified into believing animal products were bad for long-term health. I did some research at that time based on the resources provided in these documentaries and decided to join Dwayne. I didn’t realize at the time how one sided this research was however. I took a course in plant-based nutrition and was determined to prove it was possible to thrive on a vegan diet.
The health decline: I felt great in my first year as a vegan. We now know this as the “vegan honeymoon phase”. Maybe it’s because I thought I was doing the best thing for my health, the environment and the animals. But it was after my first year that my health started to decline.
I discovered I had low iron and vitamin D. I also developed chronic fatigue and chronic pain, was diagnosed with interstitial cystitis started to get skin issues and eczema patches for the first time in my life, my hormones were out of whack which was affecting my mood and cycles, my digestion was awful even though I wasn’t consuming gluten and I soaked everything, and I developed anxiety and mild depression. I also slowly started to gain weight when I had never struggled with my weight in the past.
I started to see a naturopath who prescribed me natural supplements in addition to the iron and vitamin D I was now taking. I also took B12, a multivitamin, and plant-based omega-3 oil all while following a balanced whole foods plant-based diet. Of course all of the vegans tell me “I didn’t do it right” but if anyone researched hard enough on how to it was me! After-all I was determined to make it work because I also coaching vegan clients and made a whole business around plant-based diets and challenges. I was known as an expert in the industry and has a big social media following so of course I wanted to make this work.
I didn’t eat processed vegan foods or junk. I ate a lot of avocados, chickpeas, lentils, vegetables, low sugar fruits, nuts and seeds, gluten-free whole grains, coconut oil, nutritional yeast, and drank only water and tea. I did not restrict calories and I prepared all of my meals at home. I also tried a variety of different eating protocols including high carb low fat, lower carb higher fat, I tried supplementing with pea and rice protein in my green smoothie. I even used a vegan coach to help me. I felt like I was constantly eating in order to make sure I was meeting my needs.
Yes to meat: It was after my 2nd year as a vegan my naturopath suggested I add in some animal products so I tried adding eggs back in and did this for another year, then tried adding fish back in a did this for another year, and finally dairy back in for my 3rd year as a vegetarian. So just to be clear I was vegan for 2 years and vegetarian for 3 more for 5 years total. At this point I was still supplementing and ate vegan meals weekly because I still believed it was the healthiest choice and I was determined to go back to veganism after my deficiencies resolved.
Unfortunately they did not and my symptoms kept getting worse and worse to the point I didn’t want to get out of bed in the morning. I couldn’t work out anymore and I had to stop coaching clients during this time because I didn’t know how I was going to help others if I couldn’t help myself. One summer evening 2 years ago Dwayne was grilling burgers (he only lasted 6 weeks as a vegan by the way) and I had the overwhelming feeling to eat one for the first time in years, so I did. I felt so amazing afterwards and had so much energy I decided to add meat back into my diet because I knew my body was telling me something. It only took a few months for my iron levels to shoot up and I stopped supplementing. My digestion also got a lot better.
Why carnivore: While many of my symptoms had improved once I added meat back into my diet I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and interstitial cystitis after seeking answers and treatment from literally every alternative health practitioner out there. I did several elimination diets after getting my diagnosis and kept discovering more and more triggers that would flare up my symptoms. We have done keto diets in the past and I was determined to lose the 30lbs I had slowly put on over the past few years so in January last year I decided to try a clean keto diet with intermittent fasting (basically fatty meat & veggies). After 3 months my symptoms started to get better (mainly my energy) and I lost 20 lbs.
During this time Dwayne started doing the carnivore diet and I thought he was nuts. He kept sending me videos and research though and told me it was basically the most extreme (and accurate) elimination diet out there. I watched him do it for a few months while I kept eating my veggies and he was seeing amazing results. I decided I couldn’t say anything against it until I tried it myself and had the goal of doing it for 1 month as an elimination diet and adding foods back in.
Within a few weeks my brain fog totally went away, my stomach was no longer bloated, and I had amazing energy. After the month my chronic pain was 95% gone and my eczema disappeared. I did try to add foods back in one at a time starting with avocados and then sauerkraut and my homemade sugar-free coconut yogurt but all of my symptoms came back. I was feeling so good on carnivore I decided to keep doing it until I felt like it was time to play around again. I lost 10 more lbs by the time summer came and looked and felt 10 years younger.
I’ve tried playing around with adding some things back in like blueberries and some other low-sugar fruits and vegetables here and there but symptoms always come back. I’ve now been carnivore since May 2019 and feel like it’s the easiest WOE I’ve ever followed. I have zero cravings and am happy with eating fatty ribeyes every night.
Dwayne and I have joined forces and started a social media account called @ourinfinitehealth dedicated to helping others interested in the carnivore WOE. Follow us for free content for us and other successful carnivores.
Benefits Krissy’s seen from the Carnivore WOE:
– Fibromyalgia and chronic pain symptoms 95% gone (still have a little chronic neck pain)
– Chronic fatigue gone
– Interstitial cystitis gone
– Eczema gone
– IBS gone
– Anxiety & depression gone
– Stress levels and mood stabilized
– Hormones (cycles) balanced
– Food cravings & addictions gone
– Body weight & fat stabilized (lost 20 lbs and at my happy spot)
– Able to workout again
Why I resigned as a dietitian: In our extensive research of the keto and carnivore WOE we’ve learned a lot about anti-nutrients and their role in chronic inflammation and autoimmune conditions. I was also shocked to learn about the history of nutrition recommendations by following the research of Nina Teicolz & Gary Taubes, and how there is a huge plant-based agenda behind our current recommendations from listening to the experience of Gary Fettke and Tim Noakes. As someone who saw the negative effects of making more plant-based choices first hand I just could not recommend the new food guide that prioritized carbohydrates and does not emphasize the importance of fat or animal foods.
I also felt very limited in sharing my story as a dietitian in fear of getting reprimanded even though a high saturated fat keto and carnivore diet has literally changed my and Dwayne’s lives and reversed disease in many others. I wasn’t currently practicing as a dietitian anyway and didn’t feel like my registration was serving me anymore so I decided to resign. Afterall I’ve still had 10 years of nutritional coaching experience with clients and all of my knowledge or my nutrition degree couldn’t be taken away.
Looking back there were so many things I didn’t understand. I remember doing a clinical case study in school and I was marked down for the meal plan I made for my patient because it was “too healthy” in fear that he wouldn’t comply. This patient was sick and in the hospital with a serious condition clearly caused by a poor diet. Of course I didn’t want to question my instructor though because she was the “expert”. My father, a type 2 diabetic, was in the hospital for a month recently and they kept serving his juice and high carbohydrate foods even though he expressed his concern. I understand that we can’t expect people to change overnight but it doesn’t help when we mislead people into believing their comfort foods are healthy and even serve them in the hospital. Instead “a balanced diet” is always promoted and everything is moderation but that is the most confusing term for people. It basically teaches people they can have anything they want as long as it’s not all the time. But does that mean you can still have it daily?
What if some of us need to be a little more extreme with our diets because we have extreme conditions and don’t want to resort to something even more extreme like taking medication long-term, surgery, or suffering in misery.
If you look at Health Canada’s guidelines even artificial sweeteners are still considered safe and we are still taught to limit saturated fats even though the new research shows there actually isn’t enough science to prove this. Nutrition science is largely based on epidemiological studies (food records) which we know are unreliable, but Dieticians cannot recommend anything that does not have any studies backing it, so it’s very difficult to go against the grain. I’ve always been very objective in my beliefs and would rather experience for myself then wait for new guidelines to come out that I now know are driven by a corporate agenda or for research years later.
MY SUCCESS STORY
Hi Dr. Baker & fellow MeatRx members,
I started the Carnivore diet July 2019. I was desperate to find a solution to the GI symptoms that I was having. Chronic constipation, painful gas, bloating, and indigestion were making me feel miserable. My husband started a Carnivore diet several months prior that resolved his eczema and regulated his bowel movements. He encouraged me to give it a try, but I resisted his advice for several weeks. Why? Because I couldn’t wrap my head around not eating veggies! I just kept thinking, “I have been eating healthy and exercising the last 2 years, why do I feel so bad?”
Thank god I eventually came around and decided I had enough! I saw no other option but to eliminate all foods from my diet other than animal products. Within a few days of being on the diet, my bloating and gas were improved. Although my bowel movements became less frequent, I was no longer constipated. No more laxatives and suppositories! I felt so much better.
This diet has given me freedom beyond what I could ever imagine! It’s not only healed my gut, but also improved my mental health and eliminated my sugar cravings and stress eating. Animal based nutrition along with routine exercise has allowed me to wean off my prescription medications for anxiety, depression, and migraines. I’ve taken these meds since I was a teen, and the side effects are horrible (insomnia, decreased libido, weight gain, grogginess). Being off them has changed my life.
Other benefits that I have seen are increased mental clarity, increased energy, improved performance in the gym, decreased body fat, increased strength, and muscle growth. I also have a better relationship with my husband because we support each other as we live this Animal Based Lifestyle.
Thank you, Dr. Baker & MeatRx for allowing me to share my story. I hope it helps someone else who is struggling in the same way. I am grateful that I gave the Carnivore diet a chance, and that I found the MeatRx community. This way of life is not widely accepted and not always easy. Your platform provides valuable info, resources, support, and connection with other like-minded Carnivores. I have a place to call home
– Lori MeatRx Coach
Listen to Lori’s interview on the MeatRx.com podcast here:
Before becoming a carnivore, Marcelo was a vegan, a raw vegan and also tried Keto for a time until realizing that these ways of eating gave him problems such as gut health issues, diarrhea, bloating, acne, OCD, lack of mental clarity, mental health, skin issues and headaches. He determined that for him, certain foods like plants, nuts and Keto sweets were likely the cause of these issues.
After learning more about nutrition, he became a carnivore and decided that it provided solutions to his dietary problems. Ground-beef patties, bacon, other cuts of pork and cream fit well into his eating regimen as they help to keep him satisfied between meals. His strength has improved greatly, especially when training.
Marcelo says some people feel the carnivore lifestyle is boring but his experience is quite the opposite. He’s quite happy achieving satiety by eating burgers and only eating when hungry. He really wants to help others and hopes that they will watch his video and become inspired to let him help them.
Unlimited endurance and insane energy are key benefits Zak received from following a carnivore diet. After becoming carnivore, his digestion issues cleared up quickly in spite of what he read to the contrary posted by others on the internet about this way of eating. Zak’s transition to the carnivore diet was a good one with better mental clarity, focus, mood and motivation.
Among the other benefits he noticed was better sleep. He was really excited not only to quickly fall into a deep sleep but also to hop out of bed in the morning energized and well rested. Zak also noticed that his skin issues were markedly improved with patches of inflammation becoming noticeably better. Finally, a change in his physique was apparent as a result of a diet higher in protein. Putting on more muscle and reduction of body fat were also more noticeable because of the carnivore way of eating.
Zak has realized a lot of benefits provided by the carnivore way of eating and wants to help others learn and enjoy the same benefits by being a help to them.
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