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I am a U. S. Army Veteran Sgt., GI Bill College graduate, and a retired aerospace engineer.
I had a heart attack and died while riding my bicycle 10 miles from my home. A truck drive broke several of my ribs reviving me. Two weeks later, I woke up in a commercial hospital staring at a blue wall. I was then transferred to the VA hospital where I got a triple bypass heart surgery done. My VA primary care doctor failed to notice any symptoms previous to my heart attack.. My type 2 diabetes got worse. I got a fatty liver, fatty pancreas, and stage 3 kidney disease. He had me on 14 drugs many which were statins, and he told me to eat a high carbohydrate, low fat diet, with lots of vegetables, and very little salt. I decided to eliminate salt completely from my diet, because it was so bad for my health. This resulted in muscle spasms and vomiting. Then I got congestive heart failure. My neighbors took me to their hospital emergency. The hospital removed 20 pounds of water from my legs. My VA primary care continued the medications. I had brain fog so bad that someone thought I had alzheimer’s disease and took advantage of me. That is when I decided to take charge of my own health. I started searching the internet for answers. I found an 1863 weight loss diet by William Banting (LCHF). I finally put together a low carbohydrate/high fat diet of my own. I have since then transitioned to a ketogenic diet that resulted in me going through Sugar Addiction Withdrawal which gave me an itchy rash for 2 weeks. I am finally on a carnivore diet that I patterned after neurobiologist and clinical researcher, Dr. Zsófia Clemens recommendations. I am 4 pounds away from my high school football weight. I am walking, and lifting weighs again. In a recent appointment, Cardiology could not find anything wrong with me. This resulted in me giving 3 extemporaneous lectures. The last one included a professor from UCLA. I sent her a pdf file of my experiences and research. Meanwhile, I was able to convince my Primary Care to include a fasting insulin in my lab test. My Homeostatic model assessment for insulin resistance (HOMA-IR) is 0.50!
By the way, I am 81.
Best of regards, Larry
What do I eat in a day? Sgt. Roat, U. S. Army Veteran
GI Bill College graduate
What I eat is easy to describe. The difficult part is when I eat. The answer to that is “when the ghrelin hormone tells my hypothalamus I am hungry”. When we sleep we go into a state called autophagy (self-eating). This happens when we fast. Autophagy refers to a self-eating process in which our body digests damaged cells. It’s basically a cleaning out process that encourages the proliferation of new, healthy cells. Fasting also allows the body to burn off excess fat. Some people extend autophagy to 18 hours, and eat one meal a day in a 6 hour eating window. I recommend a 36 hour fast once a week, that will give your body enough time to produce sufficient β-hydroxybutyrate to fuel the brain, and clear up any cognitive issues.
What I try to achieve from my meals is low Insulin levels. To get to the diet that I am currently on. I eliminated all processed carbohydrates, sugars, fructose, no sweeteners -they cause Cephalic phase insulin release, starches, grains, fruit (exception -berries), and vegetable oils (exception -olive, coconut and avocado). That left animal fats, protein, and vegetable carbohydrates. I chose to eat one stick of unsalted butter (115 g), 106 grams of sardines in water, occasionally I eat 227 grams of 73/27 ground beef, and 5 very low carbohydrate vegetables (Spinach, Cauliflower, Broccoli, Brussels sprouts, and avocado-100 grams each), one day total serving size 500 grams (total net carbohydrates 14g). Eat the vegetables first, fat next, and then the protein last to lessen any insulin spikes. You can eat this in 3 or 2 meals a day. Walk for 10 minutes after every meal! When I fast, I take Potassium citrate, Magnesium L-Threonate, Sodium chloride, Iodine in colloidal suspension, and zinc picolinate. I only need one meal a day ( I reduce the vegetables to 1/3), when I eat the hamburger patty. It leaves me that satiated! I find that very interesting. Not just for the satiety, but also because I have sustainable energy through out the day. Perhaps I should get a DNA test from 23 and Me. Diets are not one size fits all. We are similar, but we are not all the same. I suspect that my body is designed to eat primarily meat and fats (a carnivore diet, or zero carbohydrate diet).
The diet above has allowed me to drop all of my medications, and return me to a pre-diabetic state.
My advise in changing over to Fat as your main source of energy, is to do it gradually. This is a major change! Do not shock your system. In 1863, William Banting wrote a booklet called Letter on Corpulence, Addressed to the Public the first weight loss diet to actually work. It was a low carbohydrate- moderate protein- high fat diet (LCHF). I might add that many family doctors are now offering a high fat/low carbohydrate diet as an alternative treatment for pre-diabetes.Addendum:
Atorvastatin causes liver damage. It also aggravates type 2 diabetes maladies. I can not find any root cause to the formation of Plaque. It appears to be a process. There is thinning of the glycocalyx after an arterial juncture where there is turbulence. In fact, there are a myriad of mechanisms going on here. Endothelial Progenitor Cells are floating in the blood, so the possibility for repair is there. The body is well designed to take care of it’s self, if we allow it to do so. The dichotomy is that your body is smarter than you are.
Vitamin K2 MK-7 with D3 has been suggested for arterial plaque removal. I have found no real evidence of this. However, taking vitamin D3 along with C is a good idea.
Fructose: Over-consumption of Fructose is the root cause of Insulin Resistance. The liver can safely process about 20 grams of fructose a day. 1 in 3 people have Fructose malabsorption, and 1 in 3 people have Type 2 Diabetes. Insulin does not recognize Fructose as a sugar. Fructose carriers (GLUT5) found in the cells of the small intestines transports fructose to GLUT2 and it transports fructose to the liver where it can be metabolized. If the body does not have enough carriers, fructose can build up in the large intestine and cause gut issues (nausea, bloating, abdominal pain, diarrhea, vomiting, and chronic fatigue). The liver converts fructose into fatty acids which are stored, and triglycerides which flood the blood stream. High triglycerides signals insulin resistance. Hereditary fructose intolerance is even more dire, because these people can die from consuming Fructose. Fructose can not be metabolized, because the body is missing the enzyme aldolase B. If Fructose is ingested, the enzymatic block at aldolase B causes an accumulation of fructose-1-phosphate. This repetitive phosphorylation depletes ATP. The results are hypoglycmia, liver damage and potential kidney failure.
Test for Fructose malabsorption/hereditary intolerance: Hydrogen Breath Test.
Test for Insulin Resistance: HOMA-IR (fasting insulin and fasting glucose), or 2-Hour Insulin Glucose Challenge Test.Industrial (vegetable) seed oils: Why would you want to ingest highly unstable polyunsaturated oils that cause oxidative stress? Use lard, real butter, tallow, olive, avocado, and coconut oil.
Diets that actually work
Fructose malabsorption: FODMAP diet (substitute glucose for fructose). This is not a weight loss diet!
Hereditary fructose intolerance:*Carnivore diet.
Type 2 diabetes and weight loss: *Low carbohydrate High fat (LCHF) diet, and *Ketogenic diet.
Extreme weight loss and excellent health: *Carnivore diet.
Autoimmune disease, and type 1 diabetes. I refer you to neurobiologist and clinical researcher, Dr Zsófia Clemens.: **Strict Carnivore diet.
Minerals: I take Potassium chloride, Magnesium L-Threonate, Sodium chloride, Iodine in colloidal suspension, and zinc picolinate, when I fast longer than 24 hours.
*These diets are more difficult, because the changes are more drastic. Processed foods are designed to be addictive, so you are going to go through an Addiction Withdrawal Period (3 to 10 days). I went through Sugar Addiction Withdrawal and got an itchy rash that lasted for 2 weeks. ** Strict Carnivore diet: No dairy. Water, salt, meat & organ meats, and fat. Fat to protein (meat) ratio 35 grams of Fat to every 100 grams of Meat.
+Note from Sgt. Roat: I am finally on a Carnivore diet that adheres to my personal body design. With a carnivore diet you eat fatty meat until you are full. For me that is one meal a day. There are no ratios or macros. I eat Calves Liver twice a week. I also had to eliminate all dairy. I take a supplement that contains freeze dried Beef Liver, Heart, Kidney, Pancreas, and Spleen. I supplement the minerals, when I fast for 24 hours. So what do I drink? Water, maginesium bicarbonate water, bone broth, organic coffee, and matcha green tea. Exercise is an important component of every diet. I walk at least 30 minutes every day. I also lift light weights at 8 to 10 reps per exercise at 3 sets each. Walk 10 minutes after every meal! This is from a randomized control study involving 3 groups of Type 2 Diabetic individuals and Metformin. Walking and Metformin got the same results. Save your money, and go for a walk!
I want to address this question before it comes up. “You are not a medical doctor, what are your qualifications?” The answer to that is, if someone does something successfully, by virtue of doing it they then become qualified. Everything that I have suggested here has been researched, and I do not need a medical degree to do research. Quite frankly, I didn’t do this much research, when I was in college. Yes, it’s true, I have a degree. It is a shame that I must bear.
My name is Cobus and I am 45, and I’ve been a carnivore for 5 months.
5 years ago I was experiencing pain on my liver. I was drinking 5 litres of Coke a day. I tried to cut back but was not successful. My doctor at the time sent me for a sonar scan. He told me he is not so sure its the Coke that cause my illness and said he would like to do further tests. The scans indeed showed an enlarged liver and spleen.
I never went for a follow-up with my doctor. I was fearing the worst. I tried a vegan diet but could not make it past six months before going back to pizza or whatever was on the menu.
I discovered the Carnivore Diet on YouTube (Joe Rogan/Dr Shawn Baker interview) and decided to give the Carnivore Diet a go.
After just two weeks the change was starting to happen.
- I lost 12 kg (26 pounds) mostly in the first two months
- I am now at 77kgs (169 pounds), my ideal weight – I’m 187cm(6’2″) tall.
- I do 300 push-ups every morning.
- I have some muscles now which I did not have before.
- All pain on my liver disappeared within the first two months. I believe it was non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and that the organ fat burned away and thus the inflammation and organ enlargement disappeared.
- I also have no sugar cravings.
- I only drink water.
I share my carnivore diet story every day and point people to this website, YouTube videos and The Big Fat Surprise book by Nina Teicholz. I believe this information can help people make informed decisions to improve their health. I look forward to read Dr Baker’s book on the carnivore diet.
Thank you Dr Baker for the great work you do. If nobody reaches, nobody get touched. If we found what helped us we should unselfishly share it with people. We pray for miracles but sometimes the miracle comes in a form you might not suspect.
Hippocrates said: “Before you heal someone ask if he or she is willing to give up what made them sick in the first place.”
Watch Coach Cobus’s interview on the Meatrx.com podcast here:
- 10+ Year Suicidal Chronic Depression = Cured
- Anxiety = Significantly Improved
- Prediabetes = Gone
- Elevated Liver Enzymes = Normalized
- Hormonal Imbalance = Balanced
- Triglycerides = nearly halved
- IBS = Gone
- Heart burn = Gone
- Sleep Apnea = Gone (after just 1 week)
- Postural Hypotension = Gone
- Bloating = Gone
- Exercise Recovery = Dramatically Improved
- Cravings = Vanished
- Mornings = Cured (lol)
- Body Fat 22.4% down to 14.4%
- Weight 211 lbs down to 174 lbs
All this with no cardio exercises, and only 3-4 hours of weight training per week. For the first time ever I feel like I’m really in control of my life.
Just another weight loss story? Maybe, maybe not. That’s the quick summary of my experience with the carnivore diet so far. I know people scrolling through social media don’t usually want to exercise their attention span and read long ass posts/stories, so I created that list for them, lol. Here is my story in detail:
Many people suffering with depression develop a public facade that render everyone around them completely clueless to the pain, despair, and suffering they experience every day. Therefore, you often hear about friends and family being blindsided by the suicide of someone they interact with on a regular basis. Sometimes it’s easy to detect, sometimes it’s not. People who have never experienced real chronic depression might think it’s just laziness or lack of discipline. I can’t blame them. Must be nearly impossible for those people to imagine being tormented mentally and emotionally to such an extreme that the thought of ending it all by way of suicide actually brings a bit of relief. Wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
There were signs from a young age, but nothing too severe until I had to deal with adulthood and the stresses that come with it. I had no idea how long the next decade would be. Until recently, I had concluded I was just born cursed with this mental illness. I figured I just had to deal with it and see how long I could last.
I’ve quit so many things in my life, but one of the few things I never gave up on was the search for a cure. I’ve tried psych meds (Paxil, Abilify, Lexapro, Seroquel), all of which submerged me into an altered reality. At times I became very hostile, very emotionally numb, very accelerated, or very slow. Insert here all the side effects you hear the narrator rattle off toward the end of those drug commercials. These meds help some people, not me.
Next phase was CD’s. I had some CD’s I would listen to that were supposed to help me train my mind to relieve depression and anxiety. This didn’t last long.
Next attempt: counseling. The counselor was cool, but it just didn’t help much at all.
Next attempt: hypnotist. Complete BS. I was very irritated by this. Wasted a few hundred bucks on this.
Next attempt: jiu jitsu and nutrition. This was by far the most effective treatment up to that point. One thing I’ve always noticed is that when I develop an obsession, my depressive symptoms take a back seat for a while. My jiu jitsu obsession lasted about a year and a half. I’ve continued on since then, but just not with the same commitment or motivation. During this time I learned a little bit about nutrition. I began making smoothies with almond milk, blueberries, chia seeds, hemp seeds, strawberry, banana, coconut oil, almond butter, kale, ginger, turmeric, etc. I cut out a lot of junk food. I ate a lot of lean chicken breast dinners with sides or potatoes, legumes, and rice. I definitely felt better, but once my jiu jitsu obsession came to an end, it was very difficult for me to stick to this way of eating. It took a lot of effort. I still had tons of craving for junk, and eventually gave up.
Next attempt: psilocybin mushrooms. My first trip was a spiritual journey unlike I’ve ever experienced. Just from this one trip, I received quite a bit of relief from my depression for a few months. Over a year later my depression was back full force. I tried another trip and didn’t receive much relief at all. Then I tried micro dosing which helped for a few months as well but not much more after that.
Next attempt: supplements. I tried many veggie powder type supplements as well as other pills. From Onnit brand, to Amway, to GNC, to generic Costco brands. I’m sure they’re all full of nurtients, but I just didn’t feel much difference at all.
Next attempt: nutrition (the same way of eating I tried during my jiu jitsu obsession) and gym + sauna. Did this for 3 months, 4-7 times a week. Lots of cardio. Lost about 4 lbs only, was constantly tired and constantly craving junk, and was not improving my work out times much. Couldn’t work out too hard otherwise I’d be very sore and fatigued for the next 2-4 days. Still had many suicidal depressed days. Then after 3 months, I hear Jordan Peterson on the Joe Rogan podcast say he significantly improved his depression eating a carnivore diet.
The carnivore diet was not a new concept to me. I had previously heard this crazy doctor named Shawn Baker talk about it on Joe Rogan’s podcast as well. I listened to the entire podcast and dismissed him completely. I didn’t even give it a second thought. Maybe he didn’t mention the diet relieving depressive symptoms, or maybe I didn’t catch it. When Jordan Peterson described the success him and his daughter Mikhaila had relieving depression, I knew I had to try this diet. I figured even if it were to shave years off my life by clogging my arteries, I’d 100% make that trade in order to live a life free of depression. So I began.
My ride or die chick, Dalia, dove straight in and joined me. She has stuck by me throughout this entire depression filled adulthood. Couldn’t ask for a more supportive wife. I decided to keep it a secret to prevent anyone from discouraging me. I knew what I was about to do was ridiculous. My first two weeks eating only beef, eggs, bacon, and cheese were absolute hell. Easily one of the top 3 worst experiences in my life. The cravings for sugar and carbs were out of this world. Sugar is not a drug, right? Well, my body definitely acted like it was. My depression worsened. Fatigue was as bad as ever. Had a few days of extreme light headedness. Had nausea for a few days as well. Exercise was not possible. My business partners had to have a meeting with me to discuss my recent lack of communication and effectiveness. I didn’t realize my body was adapting to ketosis and pretty much detoxing from all the crap I’ve put in my body my entire life. For some people this transition is easy, for others it’s rough. It was damn near unbearable for me. Then on the 13th day, something happened. I had a normal day. This was not unusual for me. I often had a few normal, non-depressed days per week. The unusual thing was that it was followed by another normal day, then another, then another until I reached an entire week of normal days.
This was my first depression-free week since I was obsessed with jiu jitsu about 6 years prior. Three months later I had yet to experience even one single suicidal depressed day. I did have some down days, but nothing like before. I was down 24.4 lbs despite having reduced my workouts to 3-4 total hours per week and eliminating cardio completely. I continued with this for another 3 months. January 27th ,2019 I reached my 6 month mark. I am now down 37 lbs. Down 8% bodyfat. Besides depression, I have also completely cured or dramatically improved anxiety, prediabetes, elevated liver enzymes, low testosterone, high estrogen, all stomach/IBS issues, heart burn, sleep apnea, postural hypotension (self diagnosed), bloating, exercise recovery time, cravings, lack of energy in the morning, and I’m sure I’m skipping a few other things.
I’ll keep an eye out for any long term deficiencies I may develop, but from researching others who have done this for decades, it doesn’t seem to merit much concern. My blood work has improved in pretty much every area. My testosterone jumped 231 points, my estrogen lowered to normal levels, my minerals/electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride, calcium) stayed consistent and didn’t change at all, vitamin D improved even with less supplementation than usual, triglycerides went from 133 to 73 (not sure of the significance of this if any), and hdl went up 10 points to 53. Ldl did increase a lot from 99 to 154 but I’ll take that trade off anyday to experience all these other improvements. I will keep an eye on that by doing coronary artery calcium scans of my heart every 3 years or so and if the scans show plaque build up over time, I’ll make whatever adjustments I need to. I won’t wait until I’m 60 years old to scan my heart like most people do lol. At that point it’s too late. I will continue to get bloodwork every 6 months to a year. This is something I never used to care to monitor at all even though I was very unhealthy. I think everyone should get checked routinely. I’m open to supplementation if I see a need for it.
I did have some concerns as to the longevity of this depression cure because all other “solutions” to my depression have never lasted. I was very anxious to see how I’d feel a few months down the line. Now, having passed my 6 month mark, I have no fear of my depression returning. This has changed my entire life unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. I am now controlling my life for, what seems like, the first time ever. Each month I feel better mentally and physically. The difference between this nutritional attempt to cure my depression and the one from years prior is the absence of an obsession like jiu jitsu as the driving force. Also, the complete lack of cravings for sugar and carbs makes it very easy to keep away from junk.
My average day I eat about 1 to 1.5 lbs beef, 6 eggs, 8 slices of bacon, cheese, pork rinds, and water. The beef is usually ground beef from the store or 8-10 meat patties from In N Out accompanied by 4-6 slices of cheese. No buns, no ketchup, no dressing, no soda. How crazy is that, right?
Eventually I will experiment adding in some other foods like sweet potato or berries or even supplements. I’ll do this slowly to be able to isolate any negative effects I may experience. Overall, I can’t ever see myself being less than 85% carnivore. This diet is a great way to figure out which foods affect you negatively as you experiment adding them back in one at a time.
I’m in control of my life now. I look forward to life. Zero carb/Carnivore has given me the solid foundation to keep depression away (permanently IMO) so that I can now further my mental well-being by consistently implementing things like meditation, sauna, resistance training, jiu jitsu, occasional psilocybin micro dosing, etc., that the pull of depression never let me to stick to before. I’m very grateful for that.
In conclusion, this works for me. I urge anyone dealing with depression/anxiety to be open minded enough to try every option possible to find a cure, no matter how crazy it might sound. You may or may not see the same results as I and many others have on the zerocarb/carnivore diet, but you have to keep searching for an answer. At some point, anything is worth a try before suicide.
Some might not believe in a higher power, but that’s the only thing that kept me from ending it all and departing this world. I thank God my prayers have been answered. I guess I wasn’t born cursed after all.
My before and after (left to right)…
I went from 73kgs with mild fatty liver and very high visceral fat double digit score to 63.7kgs on keto, no gym (July 2017 – Dec 2017). No more fatty liver and good visceral fat score.
Then I went full CARNIVORE (Dec 2017 – present), and now I am 68kgs and stronger and more powerful at the gym (started Feb 2018), quick recovery, zero supplements needed!!
Listen to Kelly’s interview on the MeatRx.com podcast below:
Hello, I have a younger point of view than most I know and I hope it is useful. My name is Carly, and I am a tenth grader in America.
I’ve had liver cirrhosis since mid Nov. 2017. My body retained massive amounts of fluid (ascites). After the first few months of suffering while taking the prescription diuretics (pee medication) with no good results, finally I got an appointment for a paracentesis (fluid draining procedure). The fluid kept coming back, so we scheduled a paracentesis for once every week. In total I had 21 paracentesis procedures done to remove fluid, it was months and months of once a week. My body was retaining more and more fluid every week (while taking my medications) till it got to the point where I was retaining 20+ lbs of fluid every week.
The whole time this was going on I was in massive pain and could not eat solid food. I’m 6ft tall, and went from 175lbs down to 132lbs. The lack of food made me weak, along with the pain I could barely move around. If i stood or walked for five minutes or more my shins would swell and the pain was so much that it felt like my shin bones were going to snap in half.
I read that protein helps manage water in the body, and also I was feeling very depressed, so I decided to make my grandma’s homemade chicken soup recipe: whole raw chicken, carrots, celery, onions, salt, pepper, thyme, rosemary simmered in a pot of water for 2-3 hours, strained of bones and skin, chicken and vegetables put back in bone broth. The recipe makes around 8-10 servings and I ate all of them. It took three days to finish the pot, but by the second day I was peeing more fluid out then the entire six months of treatment. Overnight i was convinced that protein was the answer. I immediately bought value packs of pork chops and beef and would just fry them up with butter and chow down. Also because I was ill not many things agreed with me so I naturally switched to drinking more water instead of other beverages.
By the first full week of eating more of grandma’s chicken soup and frying up cuts of meat, my fluid retention went down from:
10.3L removed, 75mg albumin (7/17/2018) (low average every week)
5.9L removed, 0mg albumin (7/24/2018) (I refused the albumin)
6.7L removed, 50mg albumin (7/31/2018)
0.0L no hospital visit, appointment canceled (8/7/2018)
After the 7/17/2018 paracentesis is when I started eating grandma’s homemade chicken soup and then cuts of meat. I believe my refusal of the albumin may have been why there was a 0.8L gain the following week on 7/31/2018. By 8/7/2018 I had zero fluid retention, and that has been true till today 9/20/2018.
My medications were/are prescribed as follows:
Furosemide (Lasix) 40mg daily
Spironolactone (Aldactone) 100mg daily (I took 150mg daily)
Multivitamin once daily
After the first week of no fluid retention I reduced the Spironolactone by 50mg. Then I reduced it again another 50mg. Now I do not take the Spironolactone against my doctors orders (who said I would have to take it for the rest of my life) and I have zero fluid retention.
I did not know of the Carnivore diet during my chicken soup and meat dietary change. All I knew was that meat was helping me stay out of the hospital, reduce my meds, and gain my appetite back, and feel healthy.
I started the Carnivore diet on 9/17/2018 Monday and I’m feeling great. The reason I want to share this is because I was already a person who didn’t eat breads and pastas, but I loved my fruits and veggies and I didn’t eat a lot of meat. Broccoli, collard greens, onions, tomatoes, apples etc didn’t help me at all. Only when I started eating large quantities of meat as a comfort food my grandma used to make did I start seeing and feeling physical recovery. Now I’m on Carnivore and my recovery is improving daily. I can walk again, eat again, and be a normal person again simply because of eating meat.
I have not heard from any other persons who have liver cirrhosis who use the Carnivore diet. I can’t recommend people with liver cirrhosis switch to a Carnivore diet, but perhaps my story may help them decide what’s best for them.
I would be more then happy to post updates on my recovery while on the Carnivore diet, and I will post images of the hospital reports on the paracentesis procedures to validate my claims.
Meat has saved my life. I did not switch to the Carnivore diet to lose weight, to build muscle, or to simply eat bacon and steak all day. I switched to the Carnivore diet because meat was keeping me out of the hospital, and allowed me to be a person again.
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